justlovesfarmin:


Can’t you discuss the gullibility of you polytheists without bringing Islam into it? Be like that’s your feel-good mechanism.

You haven’t even the basic knowledge of Islam that engaging you would be tantamount to a waste of time.

God wants to hear Arabic? Go and sleep pls

I'm speaking the facts
Christians are actually the least gullible religious people on earth
The most gullible are Muslims and I have laid down the facts.
Christianity has undergone reformation over the centuries while Islam still actively maintains its belief and practices including the one at variance with Commonsense such as ALL Muslims praying in a single language. It simply makes Allah look racist but I'm sure you'll be offended to hear that.
Funny thing is there was once a time when you could only read and pray in Latin in Christianity as well.
Based on that alone, which is more gullible now?

DavidDylan:
Sir John, i quite agree with you . . .

Note the case of Tebogo in the word file from your last post. For a woman who has not walked since she was a child, she surprisingly seems to possess strong leg muscles. Disuse of muscles usually shld cause muscle wasting . . .

Although I fine sirjohn's submission interesting I differ with you as the CE write up didn't mention she couldn't walk from childhood.

SoNature:
SirJohn

Write whatever you; I am not a CE member. However, one thing I will tell you is this: Christ Embassy wouldn't have come this far if everything about the church was fake. Believe whatever you like; people with strong faith in God will still receive their healings through God's power.

😆

Kukutente23:

Few Muslims believe the hadith?
Ok what about ALL Muslims praying in Arabic while abandoning their local language is there anything worse than that in Christianity?
Believing your God only wants to hear Arabic

IGNORANCE!

SoNature:
SirJohn

Write whatever you; I am not a CE member. However, one thing I will tell you is this: Christ Embassy wouldn't have come this far if everything about the church was fake. Believe whatever you like; people with strong faith in God will still receive their healings through God's power.

Arrangee Miralces for 25 years .??

Crazy people ..

princedapo:
The fact is that,the man has never convinced me a bit and will never,just picture this circumstances,imagine somebody been blind from birth now been healed and was able to recognised the colour of tie.This happened at one of the pastor Chris crusade.who were they decieving,definately not me.

Jesus opened the eye of a man, he saw for the first time, and his report was that he saw men walking like trees.....person weh never see before....

How e take know how tree be? That he can differentiate between men and tree

ednut1:
Christians are the most gullible set of religious people on this earth lol

Hmm

You are wrong.
Christianity is the best thing to have happened to mankind.
Jesus died and rose and bought salvation and light into the life of men.

Christianity grew as a surpressed minority group in Jewish society(Study Acts 1-10) to become an example and a beacon for all nation.
It does not force men to worship, but teaches all men the truth of God's word.

Those criticizing Christianity can not provide any better alternative to living in Christian built societies.
They run to America and Europe for visa, and then turn to mock the very foundations that has prospered and brought opportunity to their generation.

Deep within these critics know they can only criticize freely in a world full of christians.

Try it with other religion, it will be the last act of your life.

You want to japa to America, UK and Europe. Land of the Christians or gullible as you claim.

Hypocrites everywhere.

jojothaiv:

Their conclusion dey off me but it's cool sha, it's easy to jump on the bandwagon

But you can use bokoharam and ISIS to judge what Islam is all about!
Dey play!

Christianity is nothing without FAKE miracle!
Think about it!

Lemme share the link to this thread to Pastor chris email address

Kokomaster69:
I am not disputing miracles done by men of God , I will allow God to judge.

Someone should show me in the bible where Jesus Christ operated healing school where healings were done.
As far as I know, Jesus Christ was conducting healings unannounced, he did it anytime, any day as the spirit led

I thought men of God said they are following the footsteps of Jesus Christ , me nor understand again oo

Foot step of Jesus my foot.

Was Jesus married?..why are they getting married?

Did Jesus have mansions,why are they building mansions?

Jesus died at 33yrs,why are they praying for long life.

Intact,there is nothing like Christianity and the way its being practised now in the Bible.
NO CHURCH,NO PASTOR,NO CHRISTMASS,NO LENT,NO MONOGAMY,NO DANCING AND SHOUTING INSIDE THE CHURCH etc

Kukutente23:

Really? What about those doing suicide bombing and hoping on getting 72 virgins in heaven?

They are as gullible as you Christians.

No reasonable Muslim will kill himself,its a straight match to hellfire

bobokanis:
@ poster.
I have another version of this healing school.
I have a clse friend who had spent hundreds of thousand of naira on his one ear old daughter who was had kidney problem at the National hospital Abuja.
After months of unending spendings with no improvement at the hospital, he decided to try the healing school of Christ Embassy.
At the healing school after a couple of weeks, the girl was ministered to by Pastor Chris and surprisingly she was healed.
This girl will be 3 yrs old soonest hale, strong and vibrant.
So what do you think about that?
This is not a story, I am a living witness.
You are right to some extent but you are somehow ignorant that your interpretation of faith is based on your feelings rather than what the Word of God teaches.
You are entitled to your opinion but all I know is that your motive for going to the healing school was basically wrong "so Pastor Chris could touch your sick folk!". Does he have to before healing comes?
Finally, if Pastor Chris is trully your role model, father and all those things you called him, I doubt you strongly if he is all these to you. You are definitely one of those who proclaim to be a member of BLW but is actually "completing the square".
To be continued

A living witness indeed - a member lol

Acehart:
What a surprise? This morning I was thinking about why we don’t have any investigation into claims of healing in some churches. I’m glad to read this.

The government of the day will be termed anti-christ!
You know how sensitive religion is in Nigeria.
The smart reason why SHAYKH GUMI has not been arrested!

hafeeanubasy:

They are as gullible as you Christians.

No reasonable Muslim will kill himself,its a straight match to hellfire

Lol
But Christians don't kill themselves do they?
Besides they read the hadith which promises them 72 virgins. Are you saying they are not gullible to believe there's 72 Hot virgins and forever erect Penis in aljannah

Ilelobola:
Don't know about CE miracles but in response to the last post. I had kidney problems as a child, not all kidney issues require a transplant. Some only require medication which can be quite expensive.

It's called "healing process". Doesn't happen suddenly but gradually with younger folks having theirs faster

SirJohn:


lol
http://www.abta.org/index.cfm?contentid=13

Page cannot be found

Don't know about Pastor Chris and his healing school, but I know that God is a miracle worker...beyond our expectations, beyond our imagination or comprehension

blahc007:

Jesus opened the eye of a man, he saw for the first time, and his report was that he saw men walking like trees.....person weh never see before....

How e take know how tree be? That he can differentiate between men and tree

Whilst this thread is set out to prove that all people see at the healing school isn't as it is, let's not try to discredit the reality of the Bible when we have a limited knowledge of it. The story of the blind man who saw men as trees never states he was born blind. In incidents in the Bible where the person bad an ailment which began at birth, it was stated so. A lot of people loose their sight in life and weren't necessarily born that way. Please find the scripture for your perusal

‭Mark 8:22-24 KJV‬
[22] And he cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto him, and besought him to touch him. [23] And he took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when he had spit on his eyes, and put his hands upon him, he asked him if he saw ought. [24] And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking.

In another instance, he met one who was born blind. I do believe in the miraculous but as stated on this thread and another thread, what is going on at Christ embassy is a shambles. I laid bare the reality of the healing school in this thread.


https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8

‭John 9:1-2 KJV‬
[1] And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth. [2] And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?



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na2016:


Although I fine sirjohn's submission interesting I differ with you as the CE write up didn't mention she couldn't walk from childhood.

Read the write up in the pictures again

ednut1:
they are a few Muslims doing that. For the gullibility a lot of Christians are doing it

Oga, go and rest and face your religion.

You believe in miracles, we do
You believe in God Almighty, we do
You believe in Prophet Jesus, we do
But this MOG you're dieing for, to you, it seems e be higher than Miracles, Jesus & God Almighty join together cos where your sense come go within the time your mama born you, train you till this time you nw entirely lacking sense (not common sense), brain, thinking faculty.. excpt if you're part of the crew you know wat i mean

mazaje:


you don't believe that it is possible for a person to walk strongly and comfortably after a long period of time due to lack of use of the person's leg muscles but you believe that Jonah survived in the belly of a whale for 3 days. . . . . , ohh i also forgot that you believe that snakes eat dust and that stars will fall from the sky into the earth when jesus comes. . . . . .

mazaje:


you don't believe that it is possible for a person to walk strongly and comfortably after a long period of time due to lack of use of the person's leg muscles but you believe that Jonah survived in the belly of a whale for 3 days. . . . . , ohh i also forgot that you believe that snakes eat dust and that stars will fall from the sky into the earth when jesus comes. . . . . .

Meanwhile, back to the comment above, did Prophet Jesus healed d blind man and suddenly he saw? No

The guy was born blind so he neva see for him life. He no fit kno color. Illumination around him go affect d guy eyes if Jesus ever do d eye opening suddenly

If you don't know, Jesus understood the process better than all of you in the healing school home and abroad.

The third part is equally as sad and the lowest of the low, so I'll deal with that and ask some thought provoking questions to you all. After the so called healings have died down and it's time for the word, if only others could see the faces of those at the healing school. Dejected and confused as to what really is happening, with the very essence of their faith hanging in the balance, they are then gathered into the hall. The sick are told that when pastor lays hands on you, the anointing abides forever, so it's in you for life. It is always stated that no one can come back to the healing school in life again. Similar to the once saved always saved doctrine, you can say once touched by pastor Chris, you're forever loaded. Tales of how people got healed as they left the venue were told to the depressed healing school participants who were now getting worried. Stories of how people received healings weeks after pastor Chris laid hands on them were repeated by Dele, Shola and co. I have to say these are some of the lowest of the low of life there is on earth. The sick are then told they need to keep confessing, speaking in tongues and also see themselves as healed. They are told the best way to see themselves as healed is to make a video of themselves healed, watch it daily and confess in prayers to God. Father God, the same way I see myself as healed in this video, I claim it. Call things that be not as though they were. Those who had polio were told to walk as they normally would, which is crooked, and then to walk as though they were healed, bending their body upright as much as they could and celebrating after walking upright as healed. They did the same with a man blind in one eye, they gave him a set of numbers to remember, got him to read those numbers with his good eye, memorise them, then close the good eye and act as though he could read what was being shown to him. He did just that, while those cameras were blazing, and then he acted as if both his eyes were good he celebrates afterwards. Those with partial hearing who pastor Chris had prayed for etc, also went through the same process. No completely blind person was prayed for by him, as it doesn't suit the script and hence them not qualifying for graduation.

We were told this was a video of faith, and this would be sent to people via DHL within a few days, to help with confessions and faith proclamations. All of a sudden about two weeks after, my phone began to ring, as those videos were all aired on loveworld as genuine healings.

So there you have the fullness of the scam at CE. Never thought I'll bring myself to write about it, but when you've received total healing, you are able to speak about such. Three videos all shot and when required, brought up against those who try and expose them. Have you noticed most ministries have a so called video of people who speak against them?? Just asking.

So here you have it.

First video

The person comes to the healing school, with their own mouth, they are shown stating they are sick, they state where they are from etc and what they want.

Second video

Pastor Chris comes in, lays hands on the victim, he falls as people are told loads of times at the school, he or she gets up, is caught on video jubilating and waving Thier hands shouting they are healed.


Third video

The person showing to the world that the are healed via video of faith they were meant to make to help them see themselves as healed.

If a victim comes up, he or she would be asked simple questions by those who are swayed by the media might of CE. But I thought I saw you on TV, you said you were sick (1st video), pastor came in and laid hands on you and you fell and stood up jumping all over the place (2nd video), and you also showed a demonstration of your healing? (third video)



Have Christ Embassy members ever wondered why pastor Chris cannot minister effectively at any other church? Recently he's been with pastor Hinn in America at his California studio and not a single miracle there? He really has an atmosphere for miracles as I can boldly say they are fake and staged. What sort of Evangelist never has meetings in countries where the system to scam others isn't set up? Have you ever heard of pastor Chris waking up and going to a country where there is no Christ embassy to preach?? He cannot as he doesn't have the setting to scam people. Reinhard Bonnke goes and has been to everywhere there is on earth until he died, same with Hinn, Morris Cerullo etc.

If I was paid to have 5 minutes with this man, I wouldn't. Most of you folks who are at Christ embassy are actually nice, I've had friends from there over the years, but the blindness in following is astounding. Recently you had Hinn around, how many of you could go to a Hinn meeting had he not been opened up to you recently by your GO??

Jesus said go into the world, not countries with Christ embassy church where 80% of people at the meeting are CE members. From members buying Thier rapsodies and giving out free and saying it's the most bought book on earth, which is funny, to other nonsense, you couldn't make it up. When you follow the trail, it always leads down to finances. Finances that 99.9% of church members would never get to see the dinner workings and yet will defend with their lives. From dodgey accounts in the virgin islands, to malpractices in the uk, and talk of sexual deprevity with daily members and female members in South Africa, the list goes on.

Some would argue that certain stones are best left untouched, but put yourself in the position of those who have been affected by this scam. A number of those who were scammed off died not long after in miserly. For some, it is like an old widow who thinks her late husband was the best man on earth, not knowing he had many women at the side and kids. Do you let her enjoy her bliss and utopia and carry on till death, or do you burst that bubble and burst that none existent image the man had with people? Do you look at the wife while making your decision, or the other innocent victims? That's exactly the case with CE.

Go round your branches and show me those who have been gloriously healed that are in attendance? There are simply none anywhere.

How many of you here could scam other this way? We as Christians, we sometimes look at others with the eyes of our innocence, which can be dangerous.

Wake up folks at CE, ask real questions for once in your life and stop morphing to give excuses at each phase serious answers are needed from your ministry. There are hundreds of abused people walking the earth right now without anyone to even talk to, who have been taken advantage of by CE.

No wonder they call it "FAITH" healing!

You just have to assumed that you are healed and act that way to be healed.

Its a very good way to scam the gullible!

Christianity!....CHAI!
From believing "GRACE" has covered for every good deeds for them to "FAITH"healing to scam people.

The link u shared is inaccessible

Nimshi:
SirJohn: not to interrupt your story. But 'm curious about this part:



And, there's been allegations about Pastor Oyakhilome's healings this year: http://www.sowetan.co.za/News/Article.aspx?id=740954

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Kukutente23:

Lol
But Christians don't kill themselves do they?
Besides they read the hadith which promises them 72 virgins. Are you saying they are not gullible to believe there's 72 Hot virgins and forever erect Penis in aljannah

Its different shade of gullibility between the two of you.They and you people that killed your God that created you for the atonement of your SIN 😆

hafeeanubasy:

Its different shade of gullibility between the two of you.They and you people that killed your God that created you for the atonement of your SIN 😆

But you believe Muhammad had a vision in a cave where an angel was giving him revelations to write in a book.
The revelations turned out to be badly edited versions of existing Torah and bible which were already well known scriptures as at the time Muhammad was claiming to have a vision.
Besides you haven't answered if it is wrong to believe that there's 72 Hot virgins for you in aljannah and you'll have a forever erect Penis to fvck them with.

To your claim, Christians did not kill their God. That's factually wrong. Jesus was killed by Jews and Romans not Christians and Jesus is not God of Christians. At least get the simple facts right if you want to mock Christians

SirJohn:

uh them go just sue u, because synagogue no attack the ppl wey koba TB Joshua
You sef wan form whistle blower

SoNature:
SirJohn

Write whatever you; I am not a CE member. However, one thing I will tell you is this: Christ Embassy wouldn't have come this far if everything about the church was fake. Believe whatever you like; people with strong faith in God will still receive their healings through God's power.

This one’s case is what is called done and dusted

kingxsamz:

I have said it many times and I'll keep saying it.
The very reason why pastors who "perform miracles" never attempt to heal people with physical deformities like people with amputated limbs, hunchback, cripples with dead legs and people with obvious, huge tumours is because they know that it wouldn't work. They don't want to embarrass themselves. Go and check anywhere at all, you'll never see where an amputee was being healed or prayed on for their lost limb to regrow.
These cIowns will boldly tell you "what God cannot do doesn't exist" but dem dey fear to perform miracles on those set of people. 😂😂
Take any deformed person to any pastor and bear what you'll be told.

That Nigerians still believe these actors after so many years prove we have great levels of deficiency in our intellect.

Including stupid professors and doctors

Tonyet1:
sure HE still does. . .believe it!

God Almighty is not gullible, he has a purpose and so he isn't swayed by how you think.

Wen he does some things you call it mystery because it's unfathomable to you

But he no dey do scam
He does miracles
He does not do magic

Very old wheelchair inside turn brand new outside - na d MOG just buy am for am?

Dead son of the widow no get faith (didn't attend healing school sef) But Jesus raised him

Any further questions??

Kukutente23:

But you believe Muhammad had a vision in a cave where an angel was giving him revelations to write in a book.
The revelations turned out to be badly edited versions of existing Torah and bible which were already well known scriptures as at the time Muhammad was claiming to have a vision.
Besides you haven't answered if it is wrong to believe that there's 72 Hot virgins for you in aljannah and you'll have a forever erect Penis to fvck them with.

To your claim, Christians did not kill their God. That's factually wrong. Jesus was killed by Jews and Romans not Christians and Jesus is not God of Christians. At least get the simple facts right if you want to mock Christians

It will look like edited version of taorah because the same God that sent moses and yeshua(yisa) sent him!
That is why you will never see muslim abusing Jesus like you mumu abuse Muhammad.
Jesus is our prophet and we believe in his teachings except Paul apostle claim that he is God which he is not!

Was the killing of God by the Jews not to you Christians benefit according to your mumu believe
Although we Muslim don't believe Jesus was killed!